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Takei Way —

December 14, 2011

Last month, Hillary Clinton gave a powerful speech on preserving and protecting the human rights of homosexuals around the globe. The speech drew widespread praise from a diverse coalition of politicians, activists and ordinary Americans.

Yet, oddly enough, nobody commented on her opening monologue in which she mentioned how great it is that a black man had finally reached the highest office in the land. “Unfortunately,” she quipped. “He’s still relying on government-subsidized housing.”

For me, this moment is second only to the time the Reverend Martin Luther King Jr.’s Letter from a Birmingham Jail, when he included a copy of his favorite comic strip.


Now, tell me something…  how do those mental images make you feel? Pretty skeevy?

Yeah, they should, unless you’re a complete and total asshole.

And not simply because the “jokes” are horrible, but because the idea of such bigotry and hatred coming from Clinton or King,  both proponents of equality and humanity, is unimaginable.

Yet when contemporary gay activists, such as Dan Savage or George Takei, post offensive jokes, comments or comics about fat people, nobody bats an eye. It’s just a joke, after all. Why so serious?

I have previously shared my thoughts on fat jokes and my take is this: a comedian’s job is to amuse and provoke, and the nature of their job gives them a certain license to offend. But in the end, they are responsible for who they piss off. When comedians tell fat jokes, I’m more concerned about whether those jokes are actually clever, original and insightful, rather than hackneyed, hateful stereotypes. The former requires skill, while the latter is the mark of a pathetic, talentless douchebag.

But when a person with a reputation for being a talented, compassionate human rights activist posts hack fat jokes, I’m taken aback. That’s what happened this week when gay activist and USS Enterprise helmsman George Takei posted this “funny” comic to his Facebook page.

The response from fans was as expected.

Likewise, the response from fat activists was a expected.

And the response to the fatties was a expected a well.

And an added bonus, the author of the comic even responded.

Ah, yes, the “I wasn’t making fun of fat people” defense. Cartoonists who dabble in fat jokes love to pull the “I was really making fun of [INSERT ACTUAL TARGET HERE]” card when they’re called out. Some even do it in advance to assure readers of purist intentions.

For example, this hi-larious comic strip for Natural News

comes with the followimg disclaimer:

The point of this comic is not make fun of Santa or obese people (I used to be nearly obese myself), but rather to point out that everyone needs to exercise in order to be healthy — even folks like Santa Claus who seem to be immortal. (Does he ever really age?)

Yeah, clearly his intent had nothing to do with fatness or Santa.

For me, the most offensive thing is the hackneyed nature of the comic (which took two people to develop, mind you). In fact, these same two organic assholes had the chutzpah to recycle this “Santa’s too fat for his sleigh” joke for a series of “Santa’s too fat” comics:

It doesn’t take long to find other examples of this exact same punchline. All you have to do is wait for Christmas to come around and someone, somewhere will whip out some variation on it. In fact, the joke is so tired and trite that it even appears in awkward Christmas song parodies and amateur grade school plays.
But the hackneyed nature of the cliched joke is my own personal pet peeve. If you’re going out of your way to insult an already-oppressed group, could you at least be funny and original?

For me, the most disturbing part of Takei’s “joke” is that this is the second fat cartoon he has posted in as many days.

The first, which Takei refers to as a “gem,” gets one point for originality and negative 1,000 for needless cruelty.

Wow, that’s hilarious because fat people never exercise! Oh, my sides are splitting.

Allow me to point out that Mr. Shatner is 80 fucking years old and still incredibly active in the entertainment industry. Who gives a flying fuck if he’s fat? HE’S EIGHTY. Besides, I thought there weren’t any old, fat people.

As far as Kate Mulgrew is concerned, very original picking on an overweight woman. What courage! What bravery! What honor it takes to insult fat women. Thank you for tackling this huge issue (HAHAHA! Did you see what I did there with the words and the thing…).

First of all Mr. Takei, fat people do work out. In fact, last night I was at the YMCA running on the elliptical for 45 minutes, keeping my heart rate between 130 and 150 BPM, which is something I’ve been doing for over a year now with nary a budge from the scale. And the night before that I was in the weight room working on strength training.

And I am not alone. I know fat professional dancers, fat marathoners, fat runners, fat weightlifters and fat athletes both professional and amateur.

You see, what makes your comic “funny” is its reliance on stereotypes: namely, fat people are lazy.

Other comics use the “fat people are gluttons” and “fat people are ticking time bombs” stereotypes, the foundations of which I addressed in a lengthy response to Dan Savage’s douchebaggery.

Now, George, I realize the concept of offensive stereotypes may be new to you, a gay Japanese American, so I’ll try to explain in a way you might understand.

Some people claim that stereotypes originate from a kernel of truth: some gay men are effeminate, some young black men are criminals, some women are domestically gifted. Part of what makes stereotypes so wrong is that they do not allow individuals to define themselves before the stereotype is applied. So it’s wrong to assume that all women enjoy housework, all young black men are criminals and all gay men are flamboyant hairdressers.

Jokes that reinforce those stereotypes (such as the joke about Obama above) are just as bad, if not worse, than flatly applying those stereotypes to people.

Why?

Because when I simply say, “Look at that homo, I bet he’s an interior decorator,” society in general will respond with, “Hey, that’s not right.” But when you tell a joke about a gay interior decorator and people laugh, they are subtly internalizing those stereotypes. Whether they agree or not, laughter excuses the offense.

Where people might respond with an appropriate sense of outrage at direct mischaracterizations, they might excuse the stereotype joke because… well… it’s just a joke.

Yet when anti-gay comics pop up in mainstream publications, the gay community responds forcefully. For example, this comic ran in the Washington Post:

The Post was roundly criticized for it and they eventually deleted hundreds of critical comments to stifle the controversy. The same thing happened when the New York Post, the hate-mongering ass rag, posted this comic.

And, oddly enough, when you married your partner of 21 years, Brad Altman, the New York Post ran this comic about you.

The Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD) immediately attacked the artist.

So, clearly, comic strips that perpetuate gay stereotypes, or degrade gay people, have become socially unacceptable. Nobody is issuing pathetic excuses like, “Well, clearly it’s not about gay people, it’s about the modern American western film” or “This isn’t meant to offend Mr. Sulu, it’s a comment on the sanctity of marriage vows.”

Yet every single day, some newspaper will publish an anti-obesity comic strip that purportedly attacks the “obesity epidemic,” while simultaneously slapping fat people in the face. The practice has become so common that cartoonist Tim Eagen includes the anti-obesity comics in the “generic 4 pak” of political cartoonists.

Every day, people share hundreds, if not thousands, of fat-bashing comics across Facebook and Twitter, and very few people think twice about it, let alone speak out against it. When the vocal few do speak out against it, they’re told that it’s “just a joke.”

It’s not just a joke, Mr. Takei. These are comic strips that humiliate and degrade people that look like me and my friends and my family. These are comic strips that make light of, and encourage, the public humiliation of fat people, and you, a self-described human rights activist, have joined the goon squad.

In June, when comedian Tracy Morgan told a truly disgusting joke about killing his son if he was gay, you said, “When I first learned of it, my blood started boiling, but then, the more I read it over, you know, he’s a sad, strange man. He’s an African-American who has been subjected to bigotry and hate before, and for him to be perpetuating that, he must be an insecure guy.”

Although Morgan’s joke was significantly more offensive than the two you shared, the underlying truth is still there: in order to perpetuate hatred and bigotry, the offender must be pretty insecure.

George Takei, you have the power to influence the way other people think and feel about the humanity of others. By posting cartoons that perpetuate stereotypes about fat people, you are participating in the dehumanization of fat people yourself. There’s no such thing as “just a joke.” All words have meaning and context and connotation. What you say and what you send to your fans, sends a message about what you believe is acceptable and who you think is a fair target for abuse and criticism.

While I judge the fat jokes from comedians based on originality and cleverness, you are not a comedian, Mr. Takei. Today, you are best known as an activist, and for an activist to demand respect for their own identity group while shitting on another is just plain hypocritical.

And if you can’t see that, understand it and remedy it, then fuck you Mr. Sulu. Fuck you at warp speed.

29 Comments leave one →
  1. LisaWordyAzz permalink
    December 14, 2011 2:25 pm

    You’re awesome, Shannon. I hope he reads this.
    I got nailed to the wall, when I posted my concerns about the gym picture. I had of course people make assumptions that maybe I should stop being so sensitive, stop eating big macs and join a gym and maybe then I wouldn’t get my undies in a bunch because of a funny post by a brilliant witty actor/director and human rights activist, who I thought he was, then until he posted that pic. After a 2nd attack on me calling out the people who made quite a few assumptions that were grossly inaccurate about myself, and the Santa pic being posted, I just unliked the page. I was hoping between the fact that people respectfully pointed out to George Takei it was offensive and he would remove the post and apologize.Apparently wishful delusional thinking on my part…
    No, instead he just posted that stupid offensive Santa pic,which I’ve seen before…
    Other then 2 comments I made on that thread,I just don’t have the patience, nor because I don’t articulate my self well enough that I don’t want to represent fat acceptance, badly, too many others are doing a great job, although I doubt he’ll ever see the light but that’s why I just unliked the page and feel sorry that people pick and choose their causes, apparently. I’m gay rights acceptance and rights advocate, I don’t need to be gay to know that bashing gays is wrong,Ibelieve in all human right causes.Except I have no problem dissing, and making fun of and being bitch to judgemental bigots. But they are the only class of people who get my vitrioal. Sadly even people of weight defended the pics and put those who found it offensive, on the defense…….

    You’re not that brilliant and funny that I can’t live without your humor, Mr Takeiand I definately don’t need you perpetuating that it’s ok to make fat jokes. As you said, Fuck You, Sulu…

    • December 14, 2011 4:53 pm

      Thanks Lisa,
      I was amazed by the response it got. It’s like whatever he posts is a message directly from the gods. People are so quick to defend him without even taking a moment to consider where others are coming from. Of course, we’re also steeped in this culture that makes accepting fat people sound so utterly ridiculous that no consideration is necessary. Head straight for Judgement City. Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200.

      Save your sanity for people who will listen. There’s no hope in the Takei community.

      Peace,
      Shannon

  2. December 14, 2011 2:49 pm

    I have never gotten the whole hero worship of Mr. Sulu thing. I mean, what has George Takei ever done except play Mr. Sulu and come out as a gay man? Okay, the coming out as a gay man was very brave and he has inspired many gay men to live as openly gay and that is a beautiful thing. But honestly … for posting those fat jokes and trying to minimize them and accuse people who are rightly pissed off as “overreaction” or “lack of humour” … I mean, come on. Is there any more classic tactic than that, when fat haters try to dodge criticism for their fat hate? We’re always being told: it was just a joke, why are you being so pissy about it … and then usually get insulted again when we don’t back down by saying, why don’t you just stop eating so much, go to the gym, etc etc … Oh my God. For him, as a person who KNOWS WHAT IT’S LIKE to be oppressed, discriminated against, criticized, judge, and harassed … wouldn’t you think he’d fucking KNOW BETTER? But no … turns out he’s just as much of an asshole as everyone else is out there. Sometimes I really think we are just fighting a losing battle, because SO MANY PEOPLE came to his defense …. we are just outnumbered when it comes to fighting for respect for large people. it’s really disheartening. I just hope Scotty beams him up to nowheresville, where he belongs. Talk about a one trick pony … get the hell out of dodge, Sulu, and please do it at warp speed before I zap your ass with my fucking phaser.

  3. December 14, 2011 3:01 pm

    I agree with your points. I disagree with your method of making them. I don’t honestly believe that Mr. Takei was being deliberately vicious when he posted the first image, and I believe that he posted the second in a reflex reaction to the criticism.

    I also posted a letter to Mr. Takei. I hope that you’ve read it.

    When a public figure with so many fans makes an error of this type, there are two ways to approach it: you can castigate them or you can ask them to stop and think about it from another point of view. I believe that an approach such as the one you have used above only serves to antagonize someone who could become a valuable ally in the fight against fatophobia. Everyone has different ways of dealing with anger and disappointment, but I ask you to stop and think as well. How would you react if someone came at you full-bore like this? Likely you would get defensive and not even listen to the point that they are trying to make.

    Outrage and anger are strong tools, but they have to be used selectively or else they become useless.

    This is your blog, and you have every right to post as you see fit, just as I did in mine. I would ask, though, that you re-consider your tactic of making repeated negative posts to his Facebook page. I don’t believe that helps our cause, rather it creates enemies.

    Your choice. Do as you feel right. Just be aware that you are representing a lot of people when you do it.

    • December 14, 2011 6:09 pm

      Lys,
      First of all, thank you for explaining your concerns. I can’t help but laugh since it’s been about two years since I faced a brutal onslaught of criticism from the more… shall we say… staunch feminists in Fat Acceptance. My response at the time was, essentially, ‘you’re right and all, but do you have to be so angry?’

      And, yeah, my post and comments to Takei are angry. In fact, I’m downright outraged. Yet I have to ask myself why that is. After all, when Dan Savage used his own words to be a bigot, my response was calm, collected and rational. So why am I so pissed about Takei?

      I think part of it is expectations. I don’t expect compassion from Dan Savage. I expect direct, BS-free opinions. I like that in a person. I understand that and know how to respond. But from George Takei, most of what I know comes from his comments on issues of social justice and equality. From those comments, I imagined George to be an infinitely compassionate and understanding person, also traits I highly value in a person. So tho see him post not one, but two critical comics about fat people completely obliterated my understanding of who this ‘human rights activist’ is.

      With Savage, there was no feelings of disappointment or betrayal, only ‘here we go again.’ With Takei, I felt a sense of ‘how could you not know this is wrong!?’

      While I agree that you catch more flies with honey, sometimes nothing but vinegar is at your disposal. So I will avoid posting further anger on his Facebook page, I’m not going to change how I respond to issues to avoid upsetting people with my wrath.

      We need anger in this movement, along with the kind of understanding, rational appeals, such as the one you posted, which I hope he reads.

      In fact, I think we need to assemble a list of posts and open letters to Takei so he can see the full range of responses that his actions have provoked.

      I can’t help the way I feel, and I don’t think I, or anyone, should hold their tongue for fear of marginalizing the movement. To do so would send a message to not trust your gut reaction, I most of the time our guts are right on.

      Thank you for bringing your concerns to my attention. I will bear them in mind the next time I feel the fatty rage building 🙂

      Peace,
      Shanon

      • December 15, 2011 5:26 pm

        I hope that you include my Open Letter in your list of posts to Mr. Takei. 🙂

        And in a way I agree with you, we do need anger in the movement, but I believe that it should be the kind of slow-burning, internal anger that gives us the strength and energy to continue moving forward. There may even be times when that anger should be used in and outward fashion, but I really believe in saving that kind of display for when it will be most useful.

        Believe me, there has been rage inside me regarding how we are treated, but I have found that aggressively or violently expressing it has been counterproductive more often than not. It may be satisfying in the short term, but in the long term it has almost always increased the difficulties involved in reaching my goals.

        We all have different experiences, and we all react in different ways. So thank you for honestly considering my words and for doing so in the spirit in which they were intended. I appreciate it! 🙂

        • Mulberry permalink
          December 15, 2011 8:12 pm

          If aggression hasn’t been useful, it’s because a) we don’t have enough of it in the movement and b) it’s not being well-aimed.
          Why AREN’T we more aggressive? Why aren’t we Occupying Weight Watchers or some other diet corporation building? Why don’t we have more effective anti-defamation kinds of groups speaking on our behalf?
          They are killing us in the name of health. They blame every social ill on us. They take our children away. They take our good names away from us and we have somehow become the deadliest deadly sin.
          Reasoned and logical approaches can work – but you have to get their attention first.

      • December 15, 2011 5:28 pm

        BTW, as I stated in my Open Letter to him, I completely understand your disappointment. It was a bitter taste in my mouth as well.

    • Bronwen permalink
      December 14, 2011 6:13 pm

      The problem is, I nicely asked, twice, on his page, to take down the offending picture. I didn’t even ask for an apology. I made the mistake that he wasn’t actively engaging in fat hate.

      He didn’t even deign to respond.

      I made a post on MY fat blog, educating him nicely, about how it’s bullying, discriminatory, that it’s not “just a joke”, and posted THAT on his page, with a call to take down the offending picture. Again, he didn’t deign to respond.

      Today, I posted one more attempt, a nice attempt, to educate how that picture, and pictures like it encourage bullying. Not only did Mr. Takei NOT respond, but one of his fans decided to be a nice object lesson of exactly how this kind of thing leads to bullying. (I was told if I would spend more time on the treadmill, and less time on the computer, I’d have a sense of humor about this as well. In other words, if I lose weight, all these discriminatory and ridiculing “jokes” will now be funny because it’s about *them* and not about *me*.)

      I responded back by, once more, in that specific thread, trying to nicely educate Mr. Takei, and then called the internet bully who said I needed more treadmill time (without knowing anything about me, btw, except that I called Mr. Takei out on posting insensitive material) just that: a bully.

      Mr. Takei has remained silent this whole time. When nice forms of education do not work, then the kind of confrontation Shannon displayed in this post is what is called for.

      Actually, Mr. Takei should not only take down the offending picture (and all other fat hating “jokes” he’s posted), but he also owes all fat people an apology for being a bigot. I expect that will happen about the same time that pigs grow wings and fly.

  4. December 14, 2011 3:05 pm

    Oh, by the way .. this is kind of unrelated, but you mentioned Dan Savage in this post … I have heard someone else say that he was quite the fatphobe but I remember reading his column Savage Love a few months ago, and a guy had written in to ask a question about his fat girlfriend. He was saying that she was kind of inhibited in the bedroom and wanted to know why and what he could do. I was actually quite surprised when I read Savage’s response (and this was before I heard he was a fatphobe). He was very compassionate and positive towards her and said the guy should be sensitive to her because of the prejudice in society towards fat women, and I was really impressed, thinking, wow, that wasn’t what I expected at all. Then someone told me he was a real asshole and fatphobe. Pretty strange … how can he be fat hating one minute and then decent the next? So I’m confused. Is he a fat hater? He sure didn’t like one in that response.

    • December 14, 2011 6:11 pm

      Gabriela,
      Do you have a link to that post? I’d love to read it. Maybe our response had an impact.

      Peace,
      Shannon

  5. December 14, 2011 5:08 pm

    All right, I’m sure I’m opening myself up for attack but I can actually see where the Santa one can be interpreted mostly as a “don’t friend your boss on Facebook and then say douchey things” joke. It reflects on society that the jokes the dorky reindeer are making about Santa are fat jokes but I don’t really see it as an anti-fat cartoon. However the “apparently only one ship had a gym” one is definitely anti fat.
    Kate Mulgrew is beautiful and I don’t think she actually qualifies as “fat” anyway–she’s an inbetweenie. Of course if you’re bigger than a size 4 in this society you are a gargantuanly fat fatty fatass. And as to Bill Shatner–shouldn’t he have been dead like 40 years ago with his huggable Santa Claus physique, according to all the “there are no old fat people” idiots? He looks great and doesn’t look anywhere near 80.

    • December 14, 2011 6:22 pm

      Ooh don’t be silly. You aren’t opening yourself up for attack by disagreeing. Just don’t be a tool and you can speak as you wish.

      Although the author may have only intended to comment on Facebooking your boss, the message is not in a vacuum. Are fat jokes the only route he could have taken? No. But the fat jokes were a kind of joke within a joke, and they still speak volumes about this culture’s contempt for fatness.

      But even setting that aside, there’s the contextual consideration that Takei had faced criticism only the day before for the same thing, which demonstrates either an astonishing ignorance or else willful contempt.

      Peace,
      Shannon

      • December 15, 2011 4:14 am

        Shannon, you’ve never attacked me. I surely wouldn’t expect it of you. I was more expecting it of other commenters because there have been a few times when I have been attacked by them: once when I was trying to make people aware of a Facebook group promoting weight loss surgery I was accused of being a troll for weight loss surgery, for instance.
        I know exactly what you mean, actually. For me anyway without the first joke the second one would have been just there. And I’m disappointed in Takei as well because he has been one of my heroes from childhood, literally. It saddens me that someone who I looked up to for so long considers me to be unworthy because of my build. It really does.

      • December 15, 2011 4:15 am

        I hope I’ve never been a tool–I try not to be.

    • Dizzyd permalink
      December 30, 2014 9:23 pm

      The fact remains that the three people who are in the picture are not only fat (or sorta fat) are also CAPTAINS!!!! says something. I admit that the only thing funny about the Santa cartoon was the fact that he saw it and was not very amused. “Heads are gonna roll” indeed!

  6. December 14, 2011 5:14 pm

    Lys, I respectfully disagree with you. It may be his page,but he tries to come off as this human rights activist but apprently only in causes he believes or can relate to. Fat people are human too,and it seems still the only acceptable and encouraged form of prejudice to make jokes at the expense of people of weight.
    As I said on his page,that if a fat comedian made a gay joke,I would call them out on it. He set fuel to the fire but not only not responding to any of the comments regarding the first picture he posted, but posted a 2nd picture that was equally offensive.
    If a public person has a wall open to receive positive feedback and reinforcement of their work, their work when it offends enough people of a community,should’ve been something for him to sit back and rethink his first picture, he should’ve never posted the 2nd one, if he felt the need though (as I followed both the threads and postings to his walls and saw when that Santa picture was posted by a fan before he even forwarded it )he could’ve made some type of commentary, while he respects all of his fans, there was no intent to intentionally offend,and at least try to find some empathy of why of us who took offense, .He didn’t. I consider myself a human rights activist,and do not appreciate slurs, jokes about people based upon gender,race,religion, sexual orientation and weight,either way. I of course don’t believe it’s ok to bash fat people nor is it right to be bash those who are thin. It’s just hard for me to wrap around,embrace or endorse people who are activists and are appalled about prejudice in only a community or a cause they personally can relate to.I’m not an animal lover, but I don’t believe in cruelty to animals. Someone shouldn’t have to be of weight, to realizing perpetuating stigmas and making jokes in a community of ours that is so wraught with prejudice and hate already is wrong. Especially someone who identifies themselves as a human rights activist…

    • December 15, 2011 5:22 pm

      And I do, and don’t, agree with you. 🙂

      I do believe that if you believe in human rights, you should believe in ALL human rights and that includes the right for everyone to be free of shaming of any kind whether it be based on body size, sexual orientation, skin color, or any of the many other ways people have found over history to create the “Us vs. Them” paradigm.

      But I also believe that while we can do our best to present arguments and reason to people, we can only control our own reactions, we can’t control how someone else acts or reacts to anything. This may mean that sometimes we have to really stop and consider our reaction to outrageous actions by others. Do we react in like outrage? Or do we rise above and continue to offer reason and reasonable response. There are times when outrage is called for, but I disagree that aggressive outrage was the proper response in this case.

      I believe that it is important for us all to remember that we ARE the voices of those who cannot or will not speak for themselves, and as such we have a responsibility to present a thoughtful, positive message. To be negative or aggressive only hurts our cause most of the time. It isn’t just Mr. Takei that we are talking to, but the millions who follow his page, who see him as a role model (as some of us have stated we have done as well), and who will immediately close their minds to any words that we have to say if we are not careful about how we say them.

      I’m not saying that we roll over and play dead whenever someone cracks a fat joke. What I am saying, however, is that we need to use tact and fact as our weapons and to resort to attack and anger as sparingly as possible. I think that taking on the role of spokesperson for a group carries that responsibility as an intrinsic part of the role.

      But, as I’ve said before, this is my opinion and my approach to things. I’m not saying that everyone has to follow it or else, I’m simply saying that it is something to consider when dealing with this kind of situation. 🙂

  7. Tyr permalink
    December 16, 2011 7:55 am

    Just a question–where did you get the information on Dr. King’s ‘Letter from a Birmingham Jail’ having that cartoon in it?

    • December 16, 2011 9:01 am

      Tyr,
      That cartoon was never included in the Birmingham Jail letter. I was exaggerating to illustrate just how absurd and out of character it would be for a civil rights icon, like Dr. King, to engage in the denigration of any group for humor.

      Peace,
      Shannon

  8. Joseph Lerbuk permalink
    January 20, 2012 7:46 pm

    Seriously?
    All of this is just about humor. How many americans are overweight today? Tons of them. Literally. But all puns aside, the fact that you guys are so up in arms is ridiculous. And equating being overweight and being gay is ludicrous.
    Being fat is a choice. Being gay isn’t.
    Seriously, just get on a treadmill, lose the weight, and just laugh along with the rest of us.

    • January 20, 2012 8:07 pm

      Being fat is not always a choice. Stop being simplistic.

    • January 20, 2012 9:31 pm

      Homophobic bigots will say that being gay is a choice too. Not all fat people are fat by choice and you cannot tell who is and who is not.

      Seriously, don’t be an asshole or you’ll get tagged an asshole. Five asshole tags and your comment is deleted. Three deleted comments and you’re banned. Say your piece without being a dick.

      Peace,
      Shannon

    • Mulberry permalink
      January 20, 2012 10:25 pm

      Of course you could change if you REALLY REALLY wanted to, Joe! Just get yourself a woman and a couple of Viagra and you’re all set! Hey, I’m LMFAO just thinking about it.
      You’re right, it IS all about humor. Did you hear the one about the gay guy, the fat woman and the Internet troll who walked into a bar and –

      Who needs to look at Takei’s site for humor, anyway?

    • LisaWordyAzz permalink
      January 21, 2012 1:30 am

      Joseph, I work out 30-45 minutes a day minimum 5-7 days a week. At minimum of 70% of my target heart rate, and an RPE of 8 on average, unless I’m doing interval training and I’m still overweight.. I’m sure you understood what I said if you exercise, and I know what I said because I have a certification from going to one of the best schools in the country as a Certified Personal Trainer.
      Shannon and or the moderators and powers to be, Joseph is an asshole.

    • Dizzyd permalink
      December 30, 2014 9:17 pm

      ASSHOLE TAG!!!!

  9. Shelly H permalink
    October 2, 2012 3:58 pm

    I know I’m a little late on this post, but I just found this site. I un-liked Mr. Takei’s facebook page a few months ago, basically because I found his posts to be offensive. My personal issue was that he had posted a picture of a middle aged woman and portrayed her as sexually worthless. I too sent multiple private messages asking politely for the post which was highly offensive to women of that age group to be taken down and when he didn’t reply, I posted it publicly and was ATTACKED!!! my post was completely civil. I came to the conclusion that he talks a good game and stands up for gay rights yet everybody else is fair game to be targeted, and that his followers are mean spirited, hateful people as well. I too was completely disillusioned with him and will no longer follow his page. Just mark my words, with his attitude something racist or anti-semitic is sure to come from his page and you’ll hear about on the news. Mr. Takei’s celebrity status has gone to his head and nothing ever good comes from that!

  10. ofrah1 permalink
    September 19, 2013 7:16 pm

    “Some people claim that stereotypes originate from a kernel of truth: some gay men are effeminate, some young black men are criminals, some women are domestically gifted. Part of what makes stereotypes so wrong is that they do not allow individuals to define themselves before the stereotype is applied. So it’s wrong to assume that all women enjoy housework, all young black men are criminals and all gay men are flamboyant hairdressers.”

    Reminds me of a quote (which happens to be one of my favorites, by the way!) from famed Nigerian writer Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie:

    “The single story creates stereotypes, and THE PROBLEM WITH STEREOTYPES IS NOT THAT THEY ARE UNTRUE, BUT THAT THEY ARE INCOMPLETE. They make one story become the only story.” (emphasis mine)

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