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September 6, 2013

Weight LossFat HealthFat Science

Each week here at FFF, we try to discuss things in the news, but sometimes we just don’t have the time, sanity points, or will to discuss things. So let’s let the Dogs of News sniff interesting,  infuriating, and entertaining things from around the web. These might prompt future posts, but feel free to let out your opinions about anything here in the comment section.

Smells like puppy love!

  • “Obesity” has leveled off in most states for both adults and children, says the CDC, Trust for America’s Heath (whoever they are), and the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation (whoever they are too). Perhaps this is a coordinated effort by the diet industry (whom had a “slow growth” of 1.7% new shmucks this year) and commercial chains (whose profits were “flat in 2012”) to boost participation and morale by saying “We are obviously doing something right! You should pay us money so we can keep this trend going!” Let us hope that the Fat Acceptance movement has just become more prevalent and that the HAES movement has steered people to a better lifestyle instead.
  • Fox News reported a study that supposedly said 30 minutes of exercise could yield “40 percent more weight loss” than working out for an hour. I decided to track down this magical study and behold, it doesn’t really say that.  Sure, the men in the study (from Denmark) lost some weight: about nine pounds in just over three months. That turns out to be about one-seventh of a pound per week, which I could probably achieve by spending a particularly long time in the restroom before meeting the scientists.
  • Children born to obese and overweight mothers are more likely to die early of heart disease, a study has found.” All I have to say is 1) fatness has been proven to be genetic, 2) not only can we fatties not die without our weight being the “factor” whether or not it actually was, but our children are now no longer allowed to die without us being blamed for it, and 3) implying that fat women shouldn’t have children until they are “normal” weight is obscene and that “if” we do get pregnant, we shouldn’t “gain excess weight” is a slap in the face.
  • A new study from the American Academy of Pediatrics seems kind of confusing to me. Here you have some factors that seem to be associated with each other (even if that association is fairly loose) and at least one weird “protective measure” against a child being heavier than another. I sat here and thought a minute, what exactly is this study talking about when it says “odds ratio” and what does that have to do with the parts in this study? Well:

If the OR [odds ratio] is greater than 1, then having ″A″ is ″associated″ with having ″B″ in the sense that the having of ″B″ raises (relative to not-having ″B″) the odds of having ″A.″ Note that this is not enough to establish that B is a contributing cause of ″A″: it could be that the association is due to a third property, ″C,″ which is a contributing cause of both ″A″ and ″B.″ [Emphasis mine]

This is just my thought, but what do participating in sports, eating lunch, and drinking milk all have in common? For my family, it always came down to money: school sports were not really free, meals at school could range in price from $1 to $4 per tray (i.e., breakfast or lunch), and the only time we got milk was with said school lunches. Perhaps there is a third property that wasn’t factored in for this study.

  • Another new study has found that if you eat the majority of your food in the morning for breakfast and taper off throughout the day, your insulin and glucose levels respond better after lunch, average triglyceride levels decrease a fair amount (36%), your “good” cholesterol (HDL) increases, your hunger is significantly decreased and satiety is increased. It’s too bad that the study’s main focus was weight loss. Also, the authors had to publish a correction after the fact.
  • Fat people tend to have more fat friends than thin people, but only by a margin of 16%. Also, Gallup seems to think that “obesity” is in the same category as smoking and drinking because all three are so obv habits and all. FATNESS ISN’T A HABIT, YO.
  • Fox News gets it wrong again, this time pretty hilariously (and by that I mean frustratingly). They can’t even properly reference the study that they themselves are reporting on. The study/material talks about ending the diet industry and diet talk while Fox keeps peddling the “it’s not a diet it’s a LIFESTYLE!” scheme.
  • FFS, it’s like someone said “How can we possibly scare Americans more than we already have into believing the “devastating” effects of obesity?” and then proceeded to work to that end goal. It has been known that CNN has taken bribes and money from special interest groups for favorable reporting (from the Syrian government, for example, to paint the president in a good light). If you look at the two largest contributors from the study you will find that both Dr. Masters and Dr. Reither have an interest in keeping their particular jobs alive.

On a brighter note, here is a link to a collection of fat-friendly blog posts that update every day or so. I have known about it for a while, but would like to see it around the community more.

Do you have interesting stories to share or opinions to express? The comments are your friend!

Kitsune Yokai

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17 Comments leave one →
  1. Kala permalink
    September 6, 2013 11:54 am

    I’m really at a loss here.

    ““Obesity” has leveled off in most states for both adults and children, says the CDC, Trust for America’s Heath (whoever they are), and the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation (whoever they are too).”

    “The Robert Wood Johnson Foundation (whoever they are too)”? Kitsune, if you’re going to write about health news, at least be bothered to have some idea of what you are writing about. RWJF is literally the fourth largest (by assets) grant making foundation in the USA, see the citation below. Anyone familiar with health research is aware of the RWJF, and mentioning them in a blithe manner makes it damn obvious that you don’t know what you’re talking about.

    http://foundationcenter.org/findfunders/topfunders/top100assets.html

    I’m not even going to touch the odds ratio thing.

    • September 6, 2013 4:46 pm

      There’s really no need to be so snotty. So they give money to people. Okay? It’s not like health studies are ever 100% unbiased. And if you had an issue, you could probably have voiced it a lot less rudely.

      • Kala permalink
        September 6, 2013 8:05 pm

        You don’t seem to get it either. This whole article was “snotty”, it was a petulant, frustrated look at a bunch of stories about obesity. Having no idea who RWJF is, and then being all “LOL,WUT, Am I Right Guys?” about it, shows that you have very little experience with the field, you certainly don’t work in public health, nor are you actually reading many papers or following the reserach in anything but the most casual of manners. Which is fine, not everyone has to be an expert, but if you don’t know much about what you’re talking about, maybe don’t be so snarky and act like a know it all when you write.

        We’ve got someone here writing about a health study that apparently didn’t know what an odds ratio was until yesterday when they looked it up on Wikipedia. And now that she knows that the odds ratio obviously doesn’t prove causation on its own, she’s going to use that information to excuse away this study and other studies because they report things that could have explanations that she doesn’t like.

        If I read a low quality article, I’m going to say something about it. And I have no compulsion to couch it in niceties that are going to obscure what I am trying to say.

        • September 7, 2013 2:17 pm

          Okay, so “be nice” doesn’t apparently apply to you. Good to know. *eyeroll*

          • Kala permalink
            September 8, 2013 10:23 am

            By all means, please reword my comment in such a way that demonstrates what I thought of the article while at the same time is “being nice”.

            What I thought about the article wasn’t nice, that’s really the end of it. Kitsune is an adult, not some child I’m teaching, I have no obligation to forsake criticism for the sake of being nice to her.

        • September 13, 2013 3:25 am

          Kala is right, if cuttingly so. I should have researched better and should have looked into the organizations I so flippantly dismissed. Kala, no I am not in the health field, but I did know what an odds ratio is prior to this post and while I could have sourced a better definition or explanation for it than from Wiki, I didn’t. I understand that there have been issues in the past about shoddy research and that as a pseudo-reporter I have an unsaid obligation to follow through with a good, thorough investigation. I will take these considerations and do better in the future. Thank you for your criticism.
          /moved here because comment was cramped/

    • Elizabeth permalink
      September 8, 2013 10:55 am

      Anyone can write about health news, they do not need a degree to do so. Not knowing what the RWJF is, doesn’t seem like a big deal to me, and a distraction from the point Kitsune was trying to make. And I do think it’s important that women speak respectfully to other women. All of us need to save our sarcasm for the powerful.

      • Kala permalink
        September 9, 2013 6:36 pm

        I don’t think it’s up to you to decide my priorities for me, nor is it up to you police how I as an adult speak to other adults.

        Anyone can write about health news, that doesn’t mean they can do so knowledgeably, a large chunk of this article was essentially speculative fiction. Shannon is capable of writing such articles, and he does not have a degree in the field.

  2. Elizabeth permalink
    September 6, 2013 12:54 pm

    Eating like a king, lunching like a prince, and dining like a pauper is a great idea (majority of food in morning, etc), but I have not found it works well for my fibromyalgia. I have a serious problem of low blood sugar in the middle of the night and dining at 7 p.m. with a protein-heavy meal works best for me. I used to be able to have two ears of corn fresh from the garden with a glass of raw milk for supper and sleep like a baby — oh, the good old days!

    • September 9, 2013 2:28 pm

      I work nights, and I tend to get a blood sugar drop at about 2 in the morning. When I was still on board the Weight Loss at All Costs Train I had an “expert” tell me that there was no reason that I, as a night shift worker, couldn’t still adhere to the policy of not eating after 6 PM if I wanted to see weight loss results. What the fresh hell?

      • September 13, 2013 3:28 am

        I hope you punched that person in the throat.

      • Elizabeth permalink
        September 13, 2013 8:42 am

        WHAT?!?!?!?!?!? My husband works nights and eats all night long, supplying his body with fuel while he is active and working. I’m with Kitsune, I hope you or someone else punched the “expert” in the throat.

  3. September 6, 2013 8:48 pm

    Well, let’s just regard all of these “studies” as cause for exuberant laughter. They’re evidence of Those Funny Humans, Always Rushing To Judgments And Jumping At Conclusions. You see, “The Obesity Epidemic” has made them quite unhinged. There’s a “We must DO something!” impetus to their mad scramble. So, like those lovable Jews who laugh at The Oppressor with the Purim observance, we should just smile wanly and shake our heads in amusement. Any other response plays into the hands of Fear and Anger. And I’ll close, whimsically, with a paraphrase from a Course In Miracles (one of the texts that contribute to that which I refer to as”My Cockeyed Theology”): Nothing real can be threatened. Nothing unreal exists. Therein lies peace.

    • Elizabeth permalink
      September 8, 2013 10:51 am

      Ah, but Harry, most people believe the real does not exist and the unreal does exist. People look at a book put together by humans — the Bible, the Koran, whatever — and say God wrote it. The ideas in our heads seem to be of more importance than what we can touch, smell, taste, hear and see. I do believe the unreal does not exist, but it can be phenomenally destructive; for absurd human concepts, humans have been willing to rape, murder and steal.

  4. September 9, 2013 2:35 pm

    I agree with others who stated that Kala could have found a more tactful way to state her issues with Kitsune’s post. People don’t tend to respond well to being berated, but do tend to respond positively to constructive criticism.
    We’re all supposed to be on the same side here. Shaming each other is not a helpful tactic. We need to help each other learn and grow as writers and as people. We shouldn’t be making enemies of each other.

  5. September 10, 2013 12:23 am

    Am I the only one who just assumed that Kitsune was being irreverent when she wrote “whoever they are”? Every NPR listener (even if they only sit through it because their better half enjoys it: my situation) has likely heard of the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation. Besides, the link to it is right there in the article. Anyone who cares to can click on the link at read all about it.

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